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I'd prefer the Halls of the Mountain King to be....
Print-only for basic patrons, print+PDF for others
14%
 14%  [ 3 ]
PDF-only for basic patrons, print+PDF for others
23%
 23%  [ 5 ]
Print-only for US basic patrons, PDF-only for overseas basic patrons
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Some other option (see comments)
57%
 57%  [ 12 ]
Total Votes : 21
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Tio
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Add me to the "I like Deinol's suggestion" pile.
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Watcher
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm late and it seems decided, but I went with the Deinol Solution.

Sounds like an old John LeCarre spy thriller.
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Arawn76
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Watcher wrote:
I'm late and it seems decided, but I went with the Deinol Solution.

Sounds like an old John LeCarre spy thriller.


I wish I had read the entire thread before voting. But it went the way I would have chose anyway.
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Krell1
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like a lemming, I follow Deinol.
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Qwilion
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I belive in free pdf and print access for any level.

It cuts down on paperwork because you just give everyone access, its one mass email for the print on demand link.

I find the
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because there's a cap on how many print-on-demand copies can be created for an ENnie nominee in the Electronic Book category
a problem with the ENnies not updating thier format to the modern age where the majority of pdf companies are now using, Print on Demand, I dont' think it should be a consideration because Open Design.

Though I think you deserve one, for a number of reasons. It is very unlikly OD will ever win a Ennie Award, due to it not being a mass market product and its special edition nature. The ENnies are a popularity contest, the limited release of something as cool as Wrath of the River King makes it less popluar,

This will be even more so now that you are dealing with the broken fanbase issue of 4e vs. 3.x

Piracy? even the RIAA has not found a way to slow it down, much less stop it, so its a non worry IMHO. I am simply heartened by the fact that the vast majority of people are honest, also I am paying for the Open Design Experiance, if I wanted a quality wolfgang product I would buy something like Crucible of Chaos Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Daigle wrote:
Add me to the "I like Deinol's suggestion" pile.


Ding!
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afbeer
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The current situation is not well described.

It changed?

Wolfgang's link to plain
http://www.koboldquarterly.com/. on January the second is currently not helpful. Please point me to the article/announcement in detail. The linked page lack dates for the individual entries. I have the suspicion that he is refferung us to the KQstore instead, but i am not sure.

I am used to having pdf and print access to all projects i am a (basic)patron of.
I always exercise the printing option.

Setting up multiple prices for prints depending on patron level and making the correct versions available to the correct patrons is prone to misadministration.

Keep it Simple! In my opinion Deinol's proposal is not simple.
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m8adam
PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am used to having pdf and print access to all projects i am a (basic)patron of.
I always exercise the printing option.


Um, I thought the whole issue was that basic patrons DIDN'T have access to print options at all. Deinols suggestion fixes that, while keeping some cost benefits for super-patrons.
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afbeer
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now i discovered that Halls of the Mountain King started out as basic patron pdf only. This WAS a change! Therefore the answer to my question is yes. But Wolfgang's pointer and addition put the basic membership again into good standing.

We will see whether different levels of patronage give different prices for the books. This is error prone and disrespects the 'basic' patron. The advantage is with adjusting patronage rates. It is not elegant to buy multiple patronages in order to have another level. I gather there will be an announcement about books anyways.
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