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marcr
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:21 pm    Post subject: What Makes a GREAT DM? Reply with quote

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So, I'm curious ... what makes a great DM? Not a good DM - a GREAT DM.

I'm interested in actual experience, not general or 'theoretical' thoughts. In other words, think of the BEST DM you ever had ... what made him or her the best?

Encyclopedic knowledge of the rules? Uses cool voices for NPCs? Weaves PC's backgrounds into future campaign events?

I'm really curious what makes a GREAT DM.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think a great GM requires two skills, both of which are hard to teach and require practice.

First is being able to read your players. Knowing when to skip past something because your players are bored. Noticing when they are interested in something so you can expand on it. Engaging the player who seems to have been left out of the last ten minutes of play.

Second is being flexible and adaptable at the table. A good game will take twists you never expect. A good GM will roll with it. A great GM will go with it in such a way it feels like he planned it that way all along.

I can't say that I'm a great GM, but I'm good enough to wish I were better at both of those things.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Easy. A great GM makes the "20 minutes of fun crammed into four hours" that is a typical session feel more like the fun stretches back into those four hours.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I must agree with Deinol: Great DM's are able to take any of the weird stuff the players throw at them and run with it! Imagination and flexibility.

And unfortunately, as Deinol also said, this isn't something you can learn how to do just by taking a class (we're talking about a college-course type class here, not a fighter/wizard/cleric type of class) or reading an article.

So I can tell you what the requirements are, but not how to achieve them. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Although a Kobold Guide to Great Gamemastering filled with essays from experienced GMs might be cool someday.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That does sound like an entertaining idea - I want to retract the last half of what I said before. There is no proof that you can't learn great DM'ing skills from a book, and I now think it would be worth trying.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That would be interesting Frey. You could get people like Piratecat (Kevin Kulp) from ENWorld who are just stellar. GMs who have "followings" are clearly doing something right.
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I agree.

Essays from some well known names (Ed Greenwood maybe?) as well as a chapter or two on SPECIFIC suggestions on how to prepare, how to respond to crazy player questions, how to deal with having players of different rules proficiency level AND different play styles in the same group etc.

I think it'd be a great read.
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Wolfgang
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm happy to entertain that idea. Kevin Kulp is certainly on my list for "DMs with a following".

Who else would you put in that category?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This sounds like a great idea, and I KNOW that I'd buy that book. Very Happy

(But then, I'm addicted to Kobold Quarterly anyway... )Razz


It may not be able to teach them COMPLETELY how to be flexible, but it would show them where and what to aim for on their journey, which can be a lifesaver, and some tips and tricks would never go unappreciated, I'd say.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One name that comes to mind is Lou Agresta from the Werecabbages. He got high marks in various tournaments that I ran and I know folks like his stuff. (In fact, IIRC there's a couple people in the Werecabbages that qualify. I just don't know their real names.) Steve Helt (ancientsensei) won IronDM a few years back, and I know folks at Paizo have spoken highly of his games.
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Zherog
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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varianor wrote:
One name that comes to mind is Lou Agresta from the Werecabbages. He got high marks in various tournaments that I ran and I know folks like his stuff. (In fact, IIRC there's a couple people in the Werecabbages that qualify. I just don't know their real names.)


I hear that John Ling guy is really sharp. So is the up and comer - some guy named Wolfgang something or other. But not Adam Daigle. He's a total hack.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zherog wrote:
...But not Adam Daigle. He's a total hack.
Actually, I'm only a decent GM, so you kinda win this battle, Mr. Ling.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most un-fulfilling win ever...
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JediSoth
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The best GMs I've ever gamed under share a couple of characteristics:

They are careful to engage all the players at their table regularly, whether there are 4 or a dozen. They are energetic with their descriptions and make an effort to keep things moving, not getting bogged down in details that are ultimately unimportant to the story the game is trying to tell.

They also have the ability to "roll with the punches," as it were; e.g. if the party goes off in an unexpected direction, they can improvise with such fluidity and skill that they players aren't even aware they've totally wrecked the GM's adventure and he or she is now having to wildly fly by the seat of his or her pants just to keep up.
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