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The Awesome-ication of the PATHFINDER RPG: The Grand Design of Sean K Reynolds

Sean K. Reynolds is the developer on Paizo’s PATHFINDER roleplaying game, but he didn’t start his career there. It took him a while to land at Paizo Publishing.

In 1995, Sean left his job at a video game company to become the online content coordinator for TSR. When Wizards of the Coast bought out TSR a couple years later, Reynolds moved out west to the WotC offices, and within a few short months, he was designing for AD&D.

That’s three years from webmaster to designer on projects close to the core of WotC’s line.

Leaving WotC, Reynolds got back into computer games for a while and into CCGs at Upper Deck. When Reynolds contacted Erik Mona at Paizo about some freelance work, he didn’t know there was a job opening.

“Sean is equally at home with hardcore rules number crunching and polishing up flavor text, fake country histories, or NPC backgrounds,” said Erik Mona, publisher at Paizo. “He’s sort of a utility infielder in the RPG business, capable of wearing many different hats (helms) at once and producing quality work in a number of different arenas. Though I suspect he would be loath to admit it, his long experience in the RPG field (and particularly his time at both TSR and Wizards of the Coast) makes him one of Paizo’s elder statesmen, and he’s always good for a story about the ‘bad old days.’”

A self-described “big outspoken goof” who doesn’t like to talk on the phone, Reynolds is a longtime World of Warcraft fanatic and a borderline obsessive painter of miniatures. His life outside of Paizo is a constant balance of hobbies, freelance projects, and… other curiosities.

“I think he lives with 17 cats, several goldfish, and a two-headed llama,” said Mona. “Sean is an animal lover to the point where he doesn’t eat them. He used to be a germophobe who refused to shake anyone’s hand, but I hear he’s now open to flesh-to-flesh contact with humans instead of just his coterie of strange animals. Also, I know what the K stands for in his name, but I am sworn to secrecy, so you won’t get it out of me.”

Below, Reynolds and I talk about 3E, Pathfinder, and lobsteak.

That’s right: lobsteak.

Welcome to the Paizo editorial pit. [More...]
Jones: What exactly does a developer do all day?
Reynolds:
I’m pretty much the wrangler of all text for our PATHFINDER Chronicles, PATHFINDER Companion, and PATHFINDER Modules lines. Start to finish, I’m the guy who assigns pieces of books to authors, reminds them of their deadlines, cleans up manuscripts, writes art orders and map orders, and handles the workflow of things to the editor.

For example, today I’m making a preliminary list of authors for our upcoming Guide to the River Kingdoms, looking at the editorial interns’ pass on the module Crypt of the Everflame, adding in some updates from the author of Qadira, Gateway to the East, and doing a copyfit pass in layout for the module Beyond the Vault of Souls.

The most brain-intensive part of my job is manuscript cleanup. Some of this is simple stuff like applying Paizo text styles to the manuscript, but it’s mostly checking continuity; noting what parts of a turnover would be good to illustrate; doing rules development on new spells, items, and feats; and deciding if it’s more time-effective to bounce something back to the designer to fix or to do it myself. The amount of work on a particular project really varies.

Sometimes a manuscript only needs a light pass for a few style issues, and I’m done with a 32-page adventure in a day. Sometimes the designer is really late, and it’s starting to affect the release date and we have to accept an unfinished manuscript, which means I’m the one finishing it. Sometimes the designer turns over a rough manuscript or one that’s way too long, and I have to spend a lot of time shining it up and trimming the fat.

Basically, it’s my job to take a turnover and improve it as much as I can, whether that’s turning an A into an A+, a B into an A, or a C into a B… although, even with C-grade turnovers, the hope is to get them up to an A. Obviously, I prefer working with designers who make the effort to turn over an A or B at the start. Any amount of time I have to spend spellchecking someone else’s manuscript (and similar basic things) is less time I have for the awesome-ification of the book.

Jones: How’d you find your way to Paizo’s editorial pit?
Reynolds:
I left Wizards of the Coast a few years ago and stopped participating full-time in the tabletop RPG industry, working on computer games, console games, and CCGs. When I was let go from Upper Deck last year, I told Erik Mona that I was looking for more freelance work. Erik told me that Mike McArtor was planning to leave Paizo, and he’d be happy for me to take over developer duties. Two months later, I was at Paizo, once again working full-time in the tabletop industry, with some people I knew from Wizards of the Coast and TSR and some I’d been working with off and on for years as a freelancer.

I’m not really seeking glory and glamor. Sure, I’m a big outspoken goof, but I’m actually glad that I’m not a big name like Monte Cook or Ed Greenwood. It lets me stay low-key. Being a full-time designer isn’t easy, and it leads to burnout if you’re not careful.

I also have a problem in that I have about 10 books I’d like to self-publish, but I get part of the way into one, and I get antsy and want to start working on the next one. Being a developer means I can get my hands dirty with a lot of books, yet don’t have to deal with the stress of churning out a huge number of new words every month.

It means I’m associated with a lot of cool products without having to do all the grunt work (just some of it). I guess it’s like actors who say, “right now I’m an actor, but I really want to direct.” I want to tell stories, but I don’t have infinite time to tell them all, so I fiddle with other peoples’ work and only use some of my free time for personal design.

I like writing; I like developing. I didn’t expect to be doing either one for a living, so I’m lucky either way.

Jones: Other than PATHFINDER RPG, what are some projects you’ve got going?
Reynolds:
I have dozens of projects. It’s just a matter of sitting down and finishing one in particular: painting minis (usually for an upcoming short campaign), playing World of Warcraft (I quit last year, started up again because a friend asked me to come back, now I’m weaning myself off of it again), sculpting terrain, and self-publishing various projects, including collaborative things with old and new friends. There are also things I mean to accomplish this year once my freelance schedule clears up, like chase some cute Seattle girls, learn to play guitar, and do some large-scale painting (like on a canvas rather than a mini). The trick is leveraging my inspiration to overcome my laziness.

Jones: Working as a developer on Pathfinder and painting minis—are these two things at all similar? Do they require similar skill sets?
Reynolds:
That’s a very insightful question! Yes, I think so.

Many minis have a lot of weird corners and angles that are hard to paint (like between a fighter’s shield and his side). When you’re painting that kind of mini, you have three options.

One, you spend a lot of time with a precision brush and carefully detail that spot so that it looks perfect.

Two, you realize that nobody’s going to see that tiny part of the mini during gameplay because at arm’s length or on the tabletop that precise angle is invisible, so you just paint it a single dark color (so it looks like a shadow) and not worry about.

Three, you realize the mini would be better if you did some surgery and put something else in that area so there was no more awkward angle. It’s more work than the second option but often the result is more satisfactory.

In RPG development, there are times where you get “awkward angles” such as a strange new rule, a weird plot twist, or a continuity problem. Sometimes, it’s best to work out all the details and come up with a cool, detailed explanation for that problem (mini option #1). Sometimes you gotta accept that the problem is something that’s not going to come up in 99% of games and it’s better to just cut what’s there and smooth out the text around it (mini option #2).

And then there are times where what’s there needs to be cut out and replaced with something cooler (mini option #3), such as replacing a broken feat with one introducing a new mechanic, replacing a new monster that uses a complicated mechanic with an existing monster that gets the same job done in 1/3 the space, cutting a page of detailed rules about haggling with a sidebar about when to use haggling as a good plot device, or adding consequences to an abrupt end of an adventure.

It’s really about trying to be smart with the time and resources you have. I could paint 100 skeleton minis and make each of them look really good, or I could accept “they’re just skeletons, and I have no PCs painted yet.” I could spend an extra week tuning a stand-alone adventure, or I could spend that extra week on a sourcebook that people will use and reference for years.

Ok, we lied about the lobsteak. Come back tomorrow for the second part of our SKR interview — we’ve saved the best for last!

19 Replies to "The Awesome-ication of the PATHFINDER RPG: The Grand Design of Sean K Reynolds"

Theocrat

May 21, 2009 at 2:15pm

Hi all –
I have long been an outspoken critic of skr because of his lack of continuity with Greyhawk.
I felt that his modules in the Greyhawk setting were sub-par and lacked background research regarding the overall campaign setting. Of course, with Golarion, things are so new that there isn’t much a continuity to look back and see what has been written. I do feel however, that along with Greyhawk, Golarion will become a setting in which there will really be so much background information that without proper research (with the PF Wiki and other online options, this will be much easier) continuity will easily be missed and Golarion may fall into some of the same traps.
I hope this is not the case and I hope that skr makes sure that is his own works and those of his fellow writers are well researched with previously written content.
Be Well. Be Well Researched.
Theocrat Issak

Majuba

May 21, 2009 at 3:21pm

“I’m not really seeking glory and glamor. Sure, I’m a big outspoken goof, but I’m actually glad that I’m not a big name like Monte Cook or Ed Greenwood. It lets me stay low-key. Being a full-time designer isn’t easy, and it leads to burnout if you’re not careful.”

Don’t tell Sean, but I at least would rank him right up there with Monte and Ed in quality. Scooping him up was the biggest coup for Paizo since the release of the Pathfinder Alpha.

Kimber

May 21, 2009 at 5:35pm

Theocrat, you sound bitter. Sean worked on Greyhawk ten years ago. In fact, I think that was his first foray into RPG design. Maybe you should be a little less critical about stuff he worked on ten years ago when he was a newb, and take a look at what he’s worked on a bit more recently than that.

*cough*Origins Award for Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting*cough*

Or, you know, you could stay bitter and angry about stuff that happened a decade ago.

Archade

May 21, 2009 at 9:11pm

To be honest, I don’t think SKR is low-key at all. I stumbled across his website and forums early in the 3.0 days, and enjoyed posting game rule issues and getting his direct feedback.

Given the 3.5 changes to the Glove of Storing, and Quaal’s Tree Token, I’m not sure if those were due to SKR listening to my players’ misadventures, but I was glad to have his feedback, and it made me a better DM.

And he likes BNL. That doesn’t hurt.

Montalve

May 21, 2009 at 11:20pm

Not low key, but definitively tohers stand more like SKR, for examply I just recently elarned he participated in one of my favorites rulebooks (Monte Cook’s World of Darkness), between him and Monte we got a wonderful book, and one of the ebst magic systems for d20.

I have been pending on his work on Golarion and what he is presenting in Chronicles and I am very satisfied… specially with Gods & Magic.

Keep the good work SKR, and yes thank you for the constant feedback you give to us as players

Omeed

May 22, 2009 at 12:18am

I like Sean. He’s too awesome. :)

Matthew Morris

May 22, 2009 at 12:41am

Yeah Veggieboy!

I think the faiths articles of Greyhawk in Dragon were excellent. His work to redefine Wee Jas, for example was a great work and relied a lot on canonfire.

Mister Pope

May 22, 2009 at 1:17am

Theocrat, so you decided to come here, read through the whole interview, and post a comment just to complain about something that never even got brought up during the entire article?

Right. That’s stupid AND classless.

drow

May 22, 2009 at 2:01am

for his work on Ghostwalk alone,
i consider him a gawd among men.
and women.
among men and women.
and, apparently, cats.

Theocrat

May 22, 2009 at 4:10am

Wow. If anything is classless, it’s saying that someone is classless for a post which states a reason why I “disliked” skr. I am not bitter for what skr’s done, I was/am disappointed for some of his earlier works and I stated that as a matter of fact – his previous fact checking on his Greyhawk work was sub-par to non-existant. A new author or not, in fact as a a new author to an established setting means that he “should” have done further research to make sure that he didn’t do a new author mistake.
I do agree that his latest work with Gods and Magic and his other works for Golarion are relatively good. I also state that I hope that his works for Golarion – as a fact checker and continutity keeper go smoothly. I want Golarion to succed, and in fact even with all the work I’ve done and do for Greyhawk, it’s WoG 2.0 that I now utilze for my games. I’m not bashing skr, and neither was the intent of my post. It’s a clear and consice statement that I feel he has done harm to the Greyhawk setting by not doing proper research – and I hope that in his new position, such mistakes will not be made.
I remember skr back on the TSR/AOL days – and loved his TSR Web site design, he made the awesome TSR Web site with the beholder and eye-stalks = links. These things were awesome. His writings have become much better. But as with all authors, sometimes they are hit and miss.
Lets hope that in his position he’s more hit and bulls eye than not.
Be Well. Be Well Hit.
Theocrat Issak

Graf

May 22, 2009 at 4:54am

SKR: I’m not a big name like Monte Cook, because I don’t want to be…

Heh.

McArtor

May 22, 2009 at 1:59pm

Jeremy Jones: Well done.

Sean: You rock.

Wolfgang: You rock for putting up this interview.

Theocrat: Let it go, dude. Srsly.

Varianor (Bill Collins)

May 22, 2009 at 2:02pm

Hey guys, perhaps the debate about issues other than the article would go better via private email? Please?

Sean, I’m really intrigued about your points regarding miniatures. Well yeah, on Golarion too, but I’d love to hear some of your tips on point #3 for both!

Montalve

May 22, 2009 at 2:50pm

I agree with Bill, it would be interesting to hear details on this area, specially in the case of adventures… I am not that good painting… nor can I find them close to home :S

Dan Davis

May 22, 2009 at 8:12pm

Without Ghostwalk, Savage Species, and Savage Progressions, D&D wouldn’t be half as much fun as it is (at least for me and my group).

Thanks, Sean!

SKR

May 26, 2009 at 5:55pm

V, M, you know you can always ask me miniatures questions on my boards. This probably isn’t the best place to get into a lengthy discussion about mini- and manuscript-surgery. :)

Kmuzu

June 23, 2009 at 12:04pm

Many years ago .. a long time ago .. I was a designer on TSR games. I worked for Westwood Studios on their Gold Box product.

I read the interview with SKR and it troubles me.

I don’t know what I would call WoW or neoD&D – but they’re not RPG’s. I mean it’s great stuff .. probably better than what I worked on .. but it’s not .. how do I put this?

At 18 years old, I was trying to get Steve Jackson to purchase my RPG concept. I was developing this game with a guy, who carried with him a filled German beer stein, he called the “Balrog” and another guy who had Tourettes and had to carry a picture of the singer, Blondie with him at all times.

This was authentic, smelly, gunge RPG. This was Boris Vallejo poster, Spencer’s black light, Chuck Norris crotch-stretch-karate-pants, RPG.

What you guys got now is too pretty – too play balanced – too spell checked to be true RPG.

Just some thoughts from a grumpy old designer. Now get off my lawn!

Hatchet GIR

April 19, 2010 at 12:56pm

I didnt realize skr worked on that stuff but then again i didnt really look to see who made iut just checked through it to see if it would be cool and fun. I like his style. keep up the good work and mad props for actually listening to us little people who just so happen to be playing your games lol. mmfwcl woop woop. Oh and Pathfinder is the shiznit except the half orc and half elf changes in stat bonuses.

Nicola

April 20, 2010 at 1:04am

Any guidance for me as I will be thinking about doing a weblog like this?

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