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	<title>Comments on: Half-Ogre PC Race</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just stumbled across this. Nice write-up. Don&#039;t understand all the chatter about ability score mods. Rules this and rules that. If you want to make it +4 str, do so. Maybe remove /reduce something else for balance. Don&#039;t like -2 int, remove it and the offsetting +1 str. Jeez, it&#039;s a game.... not a blueprint for a nuke where something bad will happen if not followed exactly as drawn out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled across this. Nice write-up. Don&#8217;t understand all the chatter about ability score mods. Rules this and rules that. If you want to make it +4 str, do so. Maybe remove /reduce something else for balance. Don&#8217;t like -2 int, remove it and the offsetting +1 str. Jeez, it&#8217;s a game&#8230;. not a blueprint for a nuke where something bad will happen if not followed exactly as drawn out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[4th edition?  Dang, thought this would be for Pathfinder.  :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4th edition?  Dang, thought this would be for Pathfinder.  <img src='http://www.koboldpress.com/k/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ask a Shoanti</title>
		<link>http://www.koboldpress.com/k/front-page4960.php#comment-5532</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask a Shoanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the theme of trust in the roleplaying section: hard to earn, but rarely lost.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the theme of trust in the roleplaying section: hard to earn, but rarely lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagalk</title>
		<link>http://www.koboldpress.com/k/front-page4960.php#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not a fan of 4th yet, but this race sounds great to play. Anyone who gets too wrapped up in rules that say you can&#039;t do this or you can&#039;t do that should just relax. a penalty to a stat for a race sounds completely just to me. it sounds fair, people who complain about their elf having a lower con than someone else should just play somethig else. Some of my favorite characters were using those penalty stats as their primary ability. a dwarven paladin is a world of fun. a halfling barbarian :)  and i could have alot of fun with a half ogre wizard :) it&#039;s all in how you play your character and negative stat modifiers give you a chance to play outside the box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a fan of 4th yet, but this race sounds great to play. Anyone who gets too wrapped up in rules that say you can&#8217;t do this or you can&#8217;t do that should just relax. a penalty to a stat for a race sounds completely just to me. it sounds fair, people who complain about their elf having a lower con than someone else should just play somethig else. Some of my favorite characters were using those penalty stats as their primary ability. a dwarven paladin is a world of fun. a halfling barbarian <img src='http://www.koboldpress.com/k/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   and i could have alot of fun with a half ogre wizard <img src='http://www.koboldpress.com/k/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  it&#8217;s all in how you play your character and negative stat modifiers give you a chance to play outside the box.</p>
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		<title>By: Fossawhey d'Orien</title>
		<link>http://www.koboldpress.com/k/front-page4960.php#comment-5518</link>
		<dc:creator>Fossawhey d'Orien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brings me back to 1st and 2nd Edition.  I have fond memories of an article written by Roger Moore about a family of Half Ogres.  Love to see this in print!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brings me back to 1st and 2nd Edition.  I have fond memories of an article written by Roger Moore about a family of Half Ogres.  Love to see this in print!</p>
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		<title>By: Orange Dragon</title>
		<link>http://www.koboldpress.com/k/front-page4960.php#comment-5512</link>
		<dc:creator>Orange Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is absolutely no reason why you couldn&#039;t play a half-ogre swordmage, it just wouldn&#039;t be optimized.  Really guys, is it necessary to min/max every single character you make?  Some people actually create characters with role-playing in mind, not just roll playing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely no reason why you couldn&#8217;t play a half-ogre swordmage, it just wouldn&#8217;t be optimized.  Really guys, is it necessary to min/max every single character you make?  Some people actually create characters with role-playing in mind, not just roll playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew J. Hanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew J. Hanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a lot to like here. The idea of the encounter power is good, but I think having it as a burst that lets you make a melee attack is a little odd. I might write it up like this:

Trigger: You are hit by an attack that deals damage to you
Immediate Reaction               Personal
Effect: You may make a melee basic attack against one enemy in range. Your reach increases by 1 for this attack.

I&#039;m also not to keen on the +3 Str -2 Int. Penalties serve to limit class and build choices rather than provide balance. (Want to play a half-ogre swordmage? TOO BAD!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot to like here. The idea of the encounter power is good, but I think having it as a burst that lets you make a melee attack is a little odd. I might write it up like this:</p>
<p>Trigger: You are hit by an attack that deals damage to you<br />
Immediate Reaction               Personal<br />
Effect: You may make a melee basic attack against one enemy in range. Your reach increases by 1 for this attack.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not to keen on the +3 Str -2 Int. Penalties serve to limit class and build choices rather than provide balance. (Want to play a half-ogre swordmage? TOO BAD!)</p>
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		<title>By: Sonofapreacherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonofapreacherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, great racial write up, and certainly welcome at my table. I think some half-ogre backgrounds and a racial paragon class are warranted now. :)

Speaking to another point, let it be said that more than any previous iteration of D&amp;D, all ability score are equal in 4th edition. A such (and this flies in the face of much that has been already said here) if you are going to pin a -2 Intelligence on half-ogres, then it should be returned with a +2 Strength, meaning, the half-ogre should begin with +4 Strength, +2 Constitution, and a -2 Intelligence modifiers. This is also in keeping with the idea that 4th edition races are not balanced with odd numbers.

I understand that the author wanted to differentiate half-ogres from goliaths, but the inclusion of a negative modifier to Intelligence already accomplishes that. No need to keep breaking standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, great racial write up, and certainly welcome at my table. I think some half-ogre backgrounds and a racial paragon class are warranted now. <img src='http://www.koboldpress.com/k/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Speaking to another point, let it be said that more than any previous iteration of D&amp;D, all ability score are equal in 4th edition. A such (and this flies in the face of much that has been already said here) if you are going to pin a -2 Intelligence on half-ogres, then it should be returned with a +2 Strength, meaning, the half-ogre should begin with +4 Strength, +2 Constitution, and a -2 Intelligence modifiers. This is also in keeping with the idea that 4th edition races are not balanced with odd numbers.</p>
<p>I understand that the author wanted to differentiate half-ogres from goliaths, but the inclusion of a negative modifier to Intelligence already accomplishes that. No need to keep breaking standards.</p>
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