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| Wolfgang |
 Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Commission Status |
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So, someone asked me to post the current status for the commissions.
At the moment, Tales of Zobeck is ahead, with 58 patrons. The commission is about 75% of the way to being funded. It is in competition with Shadow Fey. Tales of Zobeck will still be written if Wrath is funded first.
Wrath of the River King is in second position with 56 patrons, but it is attracting a lot more patrons right now, so it is gaining ground. It is somewhere around 55% of the way to meeting the commission. Even if Tales of Zobeck is funded first, Wrath will still be written, just a little later.
Finally, Courts of the Shadow Fey has drawn good support with about 25 patrons, but needs a run of big patrons to pull back into contention. I'm inclined to drop it from the running this weekend if it does not see an uptick in patrons soon.
It's also worth noting that Tales and Shadow Fey are attracting a lot more Senior Patrons than Wrath is. I suspect this is due to the number of new, 4E-only patrons showing up for Wrath.
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| Armoury99 |
| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Nooooo!
Nasty koboldses - smash the nasty clockworks my precioussss!
Maybe we're losing this because shadow fey fans are too busy plotting and politicking against each other to pay-up... and world domination doesn't fund itself you know: Poison is expensive, there are minions to support, fashionable cloaks to swish, moustaches to oil ready for twiddling.... the list just goes on.
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Moustache twiddling consumes a significant part of my day, really, so it can be a problem.
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| terraleon |
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I find a lot of time is spent practicing maniacal laughter...it's difficult to strike fear in the hearts of your foes *and* avoid just looking crazy... you've got to find the right balance of chilling and heartless. Keeping my soul in a mason jar next to the monitor seems to help.
-Ben.
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| Wolfgang |
| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: Updated Status |
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I'm going to have to try that Mason jar trick.
For status today, no major changes. Tales of Zobeck continues to hold its lead. 59 patrons and about 80% there.
Court of the Shadow Fey picked up two big patron endorsements plus several pick-ups from Lords of Lost Arbonesse, and that keeps it in the running. It's at 29 patrons.
After a spike, Wrath has fallen off sharply. Still, it's at 58 patrons and not quite 60% of the way there.
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Updated Status |
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| Wolfgang wrote: |
I'm going to have to try that Mason jar trick.
For status today, no major changes. Tales of Zobeck continues to hold its lead. 59 patrons and about 80% there.
Court of the Shadow Fey picked up two big patron endorsements plus several pick-ups from Lords of Lost Arbonesse, and that keeps it in the running. It's at 29 patrons.
After a spike, Wrath has fallen off sharply. Still, it's at 58 patrons and not quite 60% of the way there. |
Interesting! As usual, the 'Game within a game' is stacked in my favor, that is, I can't lose. I'd love to see Shadow Fae win fair and square.
Shame that the Wrath momentum slowed. |
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| Armoury99 |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Updated Status |
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As usual, the 'Game within a game' is stacked in my favor, that is, I can't lose. I'd love to see Shadow Fae win fair and square.
Shame that the Wrath momentum slowed. |
I too am *ahem* backing both horses, at it were. I want Court to win, but what kind of courtly gentleman would I be if I didn't offer a little quiet support to my enemies in Zobeck, just to cover myself in case we lose?
The Free City certainly seems to have hit it off with the KQ/OD crowd (myself included), but I really hope there's a late influx of support for Court of the Shadow Fey because D&D really doesn't do enough suave and deadly politics and I'd love to see the subject get a thorough treatment. So come on everybody - don your best black lace, dust off your copy of The Prince, and let’s destroy our enemies with poison and lies; so much more elegant than a battle axe to the face… that’s positively medieval.
Regarding River King, I think a lot of people (myself included) are interested in seeing 4e rules and encounters tackled by a competent crowd who'll share their thoughts with us as early as possible. It does have a couple of points against it, however:
Undoubtedly some people are being put off by the “up in the air” nature of the project and as yet unseen GSL/rulebooks, but the adventure has a less defined 'plot summary' than the others. They both have an instantly visible and visualised hook (“visit a court on the plane of shadows!” and “its Zobeck!” respectively), while River King is a bit less defined at present. Maybe that was the idea, but this does less to get my creative juices flowing.
Although maybe that means I'm just shallow?
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Frankly, Armoury99, I thought a lot more people would be put off by the up-in-the-air nature of Wrath of the RIver King.
To be fair, though, it does have a full outline and brainstorm that happened when it was still the "GSL 4E License Donation Project" (not a sexy name, that).
Anyway, I'm already thinking about what can be done with minions, fey step, and maybe some social challenges, but I agree it's going to be an interesting learning experience.
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| Wolfgang |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Updated Status |
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Commissioning continues slow and steady. We're in the lull between the announcement and the June deadline, when there's a late rush.
Tales of Zobeck hold the lead. 62 patrons and about 80% there. One decent push and I can start design before Blood of the Gorgon finishes up; an advantage of the guest designer that I hadn't appreciated until now.
Court of the Shadow Fey is at 30 patrons. Sort of on the bubble whether I should drop it now... Probably should, the odds are really against it now.
Wrath has 60 patrons and is about 60% of the commission level. Not much movement.
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That's terrific about Zobeck!
I'm afraid I don't think we'll see another bout of movement on Wrath till after June 6th. Perhaps we can have another rallying call once people have the core books in their hands and face the prospect with very little example.
On a related topic, I looked at a preview copy of Shadowfell (and played a playtest encounter). The one thing that struck me is that it might have some really good encounters, there isn't much of a backstory / front story to it. "Fight evil save the day." My hope for the 4E Project is that we can point at the rules and say, "Here's the mechanics, and over here is how you make them sing and dance and become a story."
Later I'll post my impressions of the little playtest I played. |
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I -think- that as excitement for 4e builds you'll be able to make fairly easily.
The trick is just catching the public consciousness.
I would say that the level range is probably a bit of a barrier. In 4e 3-4th level sounds like it's just 3rd level. Which sounds sort of short. I'm not sure that people realize that 30,000 words is around 50~60 pages.
Which sounds more to me that it's longer than just 3-4th level.
The eberron adventures (admittedly a bit railroady) generally gave up 3-4 levels in 32 pages. |
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| Graf wrote: |
I -think- that as excitement for 4e builds you'll be able to make fairly easily.
The trick is just catching the public consciousness.
I would say that the level range is probably a bit of a barrier. In 4e 3-4th level sounds like it's just 3rd level. Which sounds sort of short. I'm not sure that people realize that 30,000 words is around 50~60 pages.
Which sounds more to me that it's longer than just 3-4th level.
The eberron adventures (admittedly a bit railroady) generally gave up 3-4 levels in 32 pages. |
I borrowed your words and did a thread ressurection over at ENWorld..  |
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| Wolfgang |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: Flight of the Shadow Fey |
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It's been fascinating to see which way the Court of the Shadow Fey supporters jump. The majority have gone directly to Zobeck, but some of the senior patrons have jumped over to Wrath. It's certainly added a lot to Zobeck's numbers, but not really to its lead...
Tales of Zobeck has about 80 patrons at this point, and is 85% of the way to funded. Though the numbers seem like a big jump, many of that group voted for "either 3E project".
Wrath of the River King has 67 patrons and is 65% of the way to meeting the commission.
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The commissioning is slow, and we're at that stage where I always wonder if we're going to make it.
Tales of Zobeck is at 88 patrons, and somewhere around 85% of the commission. One major patron switch over to Wrath, but several new patrons made up the lost ground. We're still close enough that I think this will be commissioned first. Currently, the patrons are reviewing the project outline and I've started taking pitches for the Tales.
Wrath of the River King is at 71 patrons, and about 70% there. I think I'll extend the commissioning period into June, so people have a shot at it after they've seen the 4e rules.
For Wrath, the current patrons are discussing the right level for it, given the pace of advancement and the fall ship date. The current thinking is that 4th or 7th are about right (to slot in after Keep on the Shadowfell).
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| Wolfgang wrote: |
The commissioning is slow, and we're at that stage where I always wonder if we're going to make it.
Tales of Zobeck is at 88 patrons, and somewhere around 85% of the commission. One major patron switch over to Wrath, but several new patrons made up the lost ground. We're still close enough that I think this will be commissioned first. Currently, the patrons are reviewing the project outline and I've started taking pitches for the Tales.
Wrath of the River King is at 71 patrons, and about 70% there. I think I'll extend the commissioning period into June, so people have a shot at it after they've seen the 4e rules.
For Wrath, the current patrons are discussing the right level for it, given the pace of advancement and the fall ship date. The current thinking is that 4th or 7th are about right (to slot in after Keep on the Shadowfell). |
So if we want to help push it over the edge, we need to try to recruit by June 1st? Or June 30th? |
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