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| 3.5 D&D/OGL |
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42% |
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| 4E D&D |
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37% |
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| Modern/Cthulhu |
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6% |
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| Pathfinder Beta |
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11% |
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| True20 |
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1% |
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| FunkBGR |
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4e 4 me.
Depending, I might support a 3.5e adventure since I could just as easily convert it.
Have you thought about doing something system-neutral though, Wolfgang? I'm sure we could get Patrons to support "conversion" to systems of choice, by forming sub-groups in charge of their chosen system. |
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| Watcher |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Hmmmm |
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Not voted yet.. but as usual, I'm flexible.
The inherent problem with Pathfinder Beta as an option is that the monsters need to be re-tooled as soon as they settle on the core rules/
And the core rules are in flux themselves, the Beta was intended to be fairly firm, but the way I am reading it, there *are* fixes happening due to in-house testing.
The monsters are absolutely going to need to be re-tooled, and I've spoken to Jason Bulmahn at Gen Con about this (not that means I'm anything special, I'm sure ten thousand people talked to him).
Monsters don't port over correctly using PC rules any better than they do in 4E. They're weaker in a straight conversion, and the hot fix is to increase their hitpoints among other things. Without bumping them up, the Tome of Horrors Tentamort for example, died pathetically accomplishing nothing against PCs that it should have challenged.
Jason hinted that in their very real, but unannounced, monster book.. they might look at monster design somewhat in terms of the way 4E does. With monster feats and skills instead of an attempt to also make them 3.5 PC characters. That is not to say that they'll use any 4E systems, but they won't laden monsters with unnecessary skills, instead designing them to be challenges.. not playable characters.
I would be cautious about entertaining the Pathfinder option at this point, unless Wolfgang, you have an inside track on what they intend to do in terms of monster design. |
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| The Last Rogue |
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| Wolfgang |
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| FunkBGR wrote: |
| Have you thought about doing something system-neutral though, Wolfgang? I'm sure we could get Patrons to support "conversion" to systems of choice, by forming sub-groups in charge of their chosen system. |
The dual-stat or system-neutral approach is not a bad idea. Though for many folks, the stats are the point. Hmmmm.
I'll give it some thought. Might be fun to have an anthology that has a system-neutral sourcebook, plus system-specific adventures (different ones for each system, even).
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| brightknight |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Wolfgang wrote:
…but I agree that for some people, edition trumps subject.
I am one of those people: edition 3.5/Pathfinder trumps subject. |
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| Wormys_Queue |
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Voted for 3E/OGL. I wouldn't mind an adventure using the Pathfinder rules but I could make any necessary changes myself and the 3E/OGL route may help to attract people who don't want to go the Pathfinder route.
4e or True20... hrm, don't like the first one, don't use the second, but in this case I'm not sure if edition matters to me. I've a great respect for Wolfgang's work and I'd probably willing to trust his skill regardless of the System he uses. |
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| terraleon |
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At this point I'm still in the 3.5/Pathfinder camp. I tried running some 4E this weekend, and it just doesn't have the maturity yet-- things like mounted combat, vehicles, etc.
I'd also be very open to Modern/Cthulhu.
-Ben.
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| Arawn76 |
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To be brutally honest I'd prioritise;
4e
Modern/Cthulhu
True20
but if the money is available I might go with a 3.5 option.
Pathfinder is a big no for me though. |
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| Wolfgang |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Everyone's got a preferred system but me and Innercaine, apparently.
I'm surprised to see relatively limited 4E support, but perhaps it makes sense, given the Pathfinder and Paizo connections here.
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| Watcher |
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| Wolfgang wrote: |
Everyone's got a preferred system but me and Innercaine, apparently.
I'm surprised to see relatively limited 4E support, but perhaps it makes sense, given the Pathfinder and Paizo connections here. |
Actually it was quite close only a few hours ago. Just two apart.. 3.5 got an abrupt surge.
However, thanks to EnWorld, the 4E community has been informed.
If 3.5 prevails, I'll feel that it is because it came out on top.
I haven't voted in this poll yet, I'll probably abstain. I did vote on the topic however. |
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| stereofm |
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3.5 / OGL / PFRPG for me.
And since I'll be in earlier this time, maybe I can even come up with a few good ideas to share. |
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| bullonir |
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3.5 / OGL for me, BUT I have NO problems with a Pathfinder adventure.
(I'd be very curious actually... We could maybe even share it with Paizo as far as playtesting goes?)
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| Koldoon |
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| Wolfgang wrote: |
So four different system each have 2 votes? ARRRRGggggh!
This makes publishers tear their hair out and go bald, you know. I am sending my bills from Hair Club for Men to each and every one of you. |
Hey! At least you still have hair... mine's gone, and I don't have being a publisher as an excuse!
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| Koldoon |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I voted 4e, btw...
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| Wolfgang |
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Yeah, I see the 4E crowd is definitely here and speaking up. Could go either way at the moment.
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